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Lying is wrong. Telling people to lie is wrong.

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And it happens. with DIE, finding a great grandfather from the favoured ethnicity, saying you are queer, or inflating your productivity is common. I get suspicious if I read CVs that are too woke or too perfect.

The one page rule does not apply to academic CVs, BTW. They are not read. They are weighed, and you better have written all of those papers.

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Jul 4·edited Jul 4

Hard disagree about lying. My husband is a tech executive and it infuriates him to waste his time in interview loops with someone who is clearly dishonest about their professional value. You can't pull it off as well as you think you can, you will always be found out, and if the hiring manager is minimally competent he or she would rather have someone with integrity who can be taught and developed over someone with poor character who can't be relied upon. Someone who will lie to get in the door is someone who will lie about their work while in the role and that causes problems for everyone. And if you are caught out misrepresenting yourself in the application process you will be remembered for doing so. Terrible advice.

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That has to be the most clear-cut example of selection bias one can think of, obviously if you base your data on people who get caught then lying doesn't help. To use the example from the article, what is the tangible difference between having 2 mil ARR and 2.75 mil ARR that makes one guaranteed to get caught?

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Jul 4·edited Jul 4

You either get caught lying now or you get caught lying later. If you are competent, you don't need to lie about your qualifications and abilities. If you're not, lying about it to get in the door will not save you. The fact that maybe someone somewhere got away with it does not negate the fact that you run a very high risk of at the least not getting the job, getting fired with a bunch of people pissed at you 90 days into the job, and in both cases gaining a reputation as an incompetent, insecure hack with no integrity. If you like those odds, good luck!

I slightly grant your point that fudging numbers that function as sorting features that have little to do with actual job performance is not the same thing as saying "I know how to X" and then in interviews or on the job it is abundantly clear that you do not. However, it is still a significant risk and those advising it should not do so. This is just looking at it from a "this is likely to not work and also bite you in the ass" perspective and not even addressing the fact that dishonesty and lack of integrity are wrong and justifying it with "hey man it's a messed up world" is a debatable moral strategy.

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"Someone somewhere" getting away with it is about 53% of people according to a survey of over a thousand. Most jobs are simply not a high-stakes trial by fire where your exact skill level is infallibly tested. It depends on the job ofc, but people are generally not going to vigorously cross-examine your resume against your current job performance. I believe that the worst employees do tend to be dishonest, but that still doesn't address how fudging metrics to get past HR is going to necessarily blow up in one's face. I don't lie on my resume because it would be bad for my soul, but I also don't confuse what I want to be true with what is true.

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